Post Vasectomy Pain Forum

Where are the clips placed?

I’ve been trying to find where the clips are placed inside us? I haven’t been able to find it.

Experiencing a real set back these past three days. Pain a high of liek 5 and 6 hasn’t been this high in a while. I drove for too long and then did too much walking another day :frowning:

Thoughts of removing those might affect my problem areas I know some have had relief.

I think there’s enough information in this link to answer your question.

https://www.vasweb.com/vasectomy_faqs.html

Thought to also mention, I do not condone this man’s claims, or a lot of what he says and thinks. I have to look at this man’s face on huge billboards in my area all the time. Not an emoji for throwing up.

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@backintime30 Sorry to hear this, but maybe get on some NSAID’s for a couple weeks and ice whenever you can.

I had a big setback about 2 weeks ago, but it was after I got whacked in the nuts with a 2x4 really really fucking hard, and it took a solid 7ish days of NSAID’s to get back to my normal 2/3 out of 10.

Are you sure that you even have clips inside of you? Maybe you just irritated a nerve or something and need to settle it back down.

@RingoStar This is kinda off topic, and without condoning his work, at least that Dr. Stein kinda mentions PVPS and the 2% figure…although he certainly weasels his way around the topic by describing it as ‘discomfort.’ Better than 1 in 10,000 like the jackass who did mine.

Looking at the diagram I can kind of tell where it goes. Not quite understanding the testicular end placement. I mean it looks to be out side of the sheath. If that’s the case I bet that has a big or little effect on someones level of pain. I would think both ends would be placed back inside. This makes me angry.

I’ve heard of men that had an unusually large number/unorthodox number of hemoclips used during their procedure as well. They didn’t even know about it until they had them removed.

Me personally, I wouldn’t go though all the time to have my scrotom cut open, vas ends cut, clips cut out, etc without being put back together the first time. But, to each his own brother.

These clips are larger than these urologists act like they are to. They make them look tini in the diagram, but they’re not.

I’ve requested my records twice and never got them :frowning: I am just considering all possibilities is all. I am getting ready to talk to a attorney about partial disability. I don’t have a job I am terribly depressed. I thought my last job was going to where I was going to be until I retired. I freelance for them for 4 years worked for them for almost 4. Now I am like in pain, and even the thought of interview send my pain skyward. I just don’t know how I can get another job. I had friends at my last job and people knew my circumstances. I could lie in the floor with my computer and no one batted and eye. But now…

I hear you brother. I also think you are wise to be learning as much as possible, getting your ducks in a row, etc, etc far as before you consider making a surgical move. I’ve seen many rush into it, and make mistakes, and/or regret their choices. That includes myself.

Don’t give up on this, you could turn your life around. I have lost jobs over this myself. I managed to make a pretty big come back in time. Of course, it took medications to pull that off, but I did it. I’m not the same as my pre vas self (pre pvp/s self), regardless, I came a long ways. I used to think I would end up disabled. I was all messed up, like I had been in a bad car accident.

I think of reversal hear and there. But my son is a bit behind on his speech. I feel once his language skills catch up and he gets a little easier to handle that I could maybe do a reversal. I just don’t know anymore.

If I do it I want to have a safety net if it turns out for the worse, if I am consider partially or maybe just temporarily disabled some income is better than none.

I live in North Central Florida and have seen these guys’ billboards as well. They give me the feeling that they operate out of a garage or something. Scary :slight_smile:

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The single link I posted years ago doesn’t contain nearly enough information on this topic. I generally do a much better job researching topics before I post answers these days.

I researched this topic again recently. I mainly used the search terms " surgical metal clip vasectomy". I also used various other key words and came up with some different search results, but he former was the most productive.

Since this thread was created, I have seen at least one man post his post reversal story on this site where he could prove that multiple surgical metal clips were used during his vasectomy procedure - installed, on both sides, installed somewhere on both vas deferens, etc. Such testimonials never made a whole lot of sense to me until I started doing some more research.

Up till more recently, I always assumed vasectomists that we’re using multiple metal clips per side were doing something unorthodox or screwing up. In some cases, perhaps they did screw something to do with the clips up - the number of clips used, the placement of the clips, etc. Whatever the case, I have found some reference that supports the idea that in some cases, the use of multiple surgical metal clips used per side does not seem be completely unorthodox.


Please note - the purpose of this write-up regarding the metal clips topic I am digging into isn’t to be confused with the idea that I support anything that I am posting. Such as - what version is best, what version is better, what version is safer, etc. I am just presenting what I am aware of - presenting some of my research - some of my thoughts - etc.


Here is a link to something I previously described…

See -Fascial interposition

"Clips may be used instead of disolvable sutures"


I came across many diagrams of various vasectomy techniques that are currently known to be used, but I couldn’t download some of the images. That said, this is not a complete list of some of the various diagrams, etc, that I came across during my research. Below is a very limited breakdown of metal clips being used in various variants of closed ended vasectomy techniques and open ended vasectomy techniques.

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This isn’t good…

It looks like urologists could be doing just about anything with surgical metal clips, hemoclips, etc during a vasectomy.


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"The titanium clips are frequently not used to clip the vas deferens tubes, but rather the tissue adjacent to the tubes, so as to form an extra barrier between the ends of the tubes."


At this/that point, it seems that an accurate answer regarding where are the surgical metal clips placed, the number or amount of them typically used, etc, just went out the window. Individual discretion is advised.

Source -

https://www.vasectomy.com/question/can-titanium-clips-used-with-vasectomy-fall-off-11169