I guess at least one of them would be considered open, but if someone’s count is ~1-5 million, is that really enough to help matters? Purely assumptions from that point forward. Try convincing an expert, let alone yourself, that ~1-5 million motile is doing the trick
~A lot of men continue to do well after their reversals fail. I don’t have any detailed information, published studies, etc, about individual accounts other than my own, but that’s what many top tier pvps surgeons, docs, etc, insist is the truth. In all honesty, I tend to believe them up to a certain point. IDK all about it. Don’t forget that we have some guys on this site that are shooting blanks post reversal, and their pain didn’t come back. Don’t forget about reversals for pain that do not include being fertile again either. There’s certainly more to this reversal for pain stuff than just fertility.
I had someone ask me the same question in PM not to long ago. I copied and pasted my response below.
"I still had issues from my third procedure that also caused pain afterwards. I have said on the open forum one time that I wouldn’t have noticed that I was failure when it happened, but that not quite accurate. I should’ve known what was happening as I had more pain going on than normal. I also felt abnormally in need of ejaculating at times when I should not have been, such as while at work. Bad blue balls like feeling, accompanied by other pains. I should’ve known.
I was on a long run just coping with my outcomes, my back pain, life… I guess I just didn’t want to know, but I should’ve. I’d just had it with all this and that back then (fall 2013). I had already given up and resorted to tramadol to get through the work week back then. I was a fabricator / welder in an industrial fab shop back then. I did what I had to do."
I am not the typical pvps pain guy @Vasvictim. I feel confident saying that I have more than one issue going on. If I go with my gut, I’d tell you that the majority of my issues stem from a pre-existing varicocele pain condition. It’s hard to explain, but I feel that I was made worse by vasectomy complications, and perhaps by my first reversal. My third procedure made matters worse to.
I tend to believe that I suffer from (1) blood congestion, (2) nerve damage, and (3) sperm congestion. My gut tells me that I suffer the most from 1 and 2. I have lived with this since ~2013, no intervention since, and this is what I tend to believe.
Granted, I have made some good progress over the years since ~2013. I’m certainly not as bad off as I was pre reversal (in many aspects). I feel that I am in much better shape physically and mentally than many here, but some of that is likely because I’m not getting beat up by this shit regularly anymore, and/or have gotten used to living with residual pvp/s. I can go on lengthy sprees of nearly pain free, to generally ~short lived episodes that leave me feeling about as crappy as many others on this site. On average, I’m doing quite well considering everything.
Overall, I consider myself a success story.